Most stuff that uses brine uses salt water. Not hard to get a lot of, but hard to maintain forever. (H 2 O) Steam is a water that has been heated into a scalding Gas. Water Based. The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic. Polluted water from slime biome. I then understood that I could select the geyser itself and make it a template to place elsewhere. . Maybe the values in the game are a bit off, but then its a game, and this is not earth. A SPOM turns water into oxygen - and generates enough power in the process that it can power itself. 200. Dasha Saltvine is an Industrial Plant that produces Salt. common occurrences of this is that water changes to ice at -5 C, while salt water goes down to -11 C and when the Desalinator converts it, the water freezes upon exit. Stage 2 - power source - creates power on demand and clean water. It produces Crude Oil when supplied with water, however, water pumped into an oil reservoir cannot be recovered. 750 g/s Rust + 250 g/s Salt = 570 g/s Oxygen + 30 g/s Chlorine + 400 g/s Iron Ore. It could be the polluted ice is "flaking" off (a mechanic where 5kg of a material will change state if enough heat is present), so the ice would still appear to be frozen in the biome while small amounts fall out. Send the clean water to a second liquid tank, and the into an electrolizer in a tiny enclosed space. You're literally removing all heat that leaks out, so that's not a problem at all. There may be one asteroid with a salt water geyser depending on the cluster you started with. This Guide is intended to keep your Duplicants from suffocating. When heated to 105. Pretty much the only thing you can do with that much salt water is desalinate the water and use it to run hgydrogen powerplants (that is a SPOM which is built in space, with the oxygen pumps being replaced with the void of space, eliminating the 480 W of running the oxygen pumps). Best. 5 kg/s Water + 1. +100 Kg. It will also look into handling CO2 gas resulting from breathing and some structure waste products. 37kDTU per kg. Intro: 0:00Starti. This was the reservoir won't let even one packet out as long as the door is open, but allow water packets coming in. It is naturally obtainable in the Tide Pool Biome. you can use the water for cooling and after that easily clean it with sleeve. saving you time instead of having to pipe everything there. No idea if it turned into brine or if the game deleted it, but I don't recall seeing salt chunks formed at the time. Originally posted by A Gay Stoned Cat: Unfortunately, not really. Make sure to spam the top with ice sculptures. I've been relying on wild plants and care packages to get food for long rocket journeys, and I think it's caught up with me. Throughput is what it's all about. You don't want to use abyssalite for your pipes in this case because they will insulate the water from the cold of the cold biome. Avg. With Tempshift plates inside, and the building well insulated; you can keep the SPOM's temp at about 25c or whatever temp you want to maintain. It also can serve to combat oxygen overproduction by turning oxygen into. Polluted Ice in the Frozen Biomes will also start melting into cold puddles of Polluted Water once they are breached. It will take damage from polluted water, it will pass water through. I did put liquid water in to help out, but clearly not enough. Output: about 1. However i must share a bug. That how I learned. Boiling this Crude Oil to Sour Gas by heating it up to ~540°C: you get 3. 3. You're not heating your fluid to capacity and then moving it. (Note that I am not sure if you are allowed to use hydroponics tiles for trees; if you can that makes it easier you just pipe water from reservoir to hydro tile). It produces, power , petroleum and meat while also getting rid of excess CO2. ID. It tends to rise above other gases. Sand is a filtration medium that exists predominantly in the Temperate Biome and Tide Pool Biome. Intro: 0:00Eruption rates and times: 3:17Discovering geysers/vents/volcanoes: 5:22Cool Steam Vent: 8:52Steam Vent: 19:26Water Geyser: 29:43Salt Water Geyser:. Cobalt is also produced in its Liquid phase by Cobalt Volcanoes. That's a brainfart on my part, my bad. . Electrolyzer is a machine that uses electricity to split Water into its constituent Oxygen and Hydrogen. 7 Kg/s salt @101°C + 9. Other resources exhibit this behaviour (see this category). The. Per second. It's friggin everywhere, and it's trash. The liquid and gas vent work only below 1800 g pressure. Each tile of salt water is worth 70kg of Salt (100:7 ratio) while Brine is 300kg (10:3), that is then times 4 to get the Oxygen and Chlorine out of Rust. Battle-tested for 500 cycles. It is suggested to send hot water there as the building will always output oil at 90C. 5. for electrolyzers i almost always not use my base water supply and rely on geysers, and 2 cool steam vents + 1 salt water geyser is. Salt water has a slightly lower freezing point than normal water, meaning its temperature range is bigger when used in a cooling loop, but polluted water still is better for this. . Specific Heat Capacity. It can be used to grow domestic Waterweed, converted into water and salt by boiling or a Desalinator, or cooled to produce ice and brine. Random water appearing in places. A highly pressurized geyser that periodically erupts with freezing Polluted Water. 016 kg/s of saltwater. ago. It is the most simple airlock, A pneumatic door with its 2 tiles occupied by 2 different liquid. Ice + salt = very cold brine. Handy for farms if you don't have hydroponics. I theorize the material deposit is getting the heat spike — the salt is +100ºC with 700kg of steam formed. This is part 37 of the Oxygen Not Included series on The Badlands. Electrolyzer outputs: 888 g/s oxygen 112 g/s hydrogen add both and you get exactly 1000 g/s of total gas. Learn how to obtain or transform a specific material. 64 Lavatory + Sink uses (16. 0. It's time to upgrade from rust deoxydizers to electrolyzers. 75kg/cycle from a groomed molten slickster. Theobourne • 27 days ago. Salt Water is found in some biomes, and cannot be produced by duplicants - the only renewable sources are space missions and the Salt Water Geyser. Each harvest produces 12 kg, 4800 kcals Lettuce which is edible raw, or can be further cooked into Mushroom Wrap or Frost Burgers. It is an unbreathable Gas that is extremely light and will rise above all other gases. Duplicants can only carry bottled liquids. Rust Deoxidizer can produce Oxygen, Chlorine and Iron Ore from Rust and Salt. First, build a basin under the geyser to catch the salt water. Seems to be bug for me. Plus, I only tend to use Rest Deoxydizers on forest maps, so there will be pips around to plant the saltvine (and maybe an oxyfern) for me. A "Hydra", as the community colloquially refers to it, is a scalable Electrolyzer array, similar in functionality to a SPOM but designed to quickly convert large amounts of water into oxygen and hydrogen. From the INPUT of the bridge make a new pipeline. The first step to preventing blocked pipes is setting up your plumbing system correctly. The building will automatically expand up to 4 tiles deep into the liquid below the pump. I just simply use it for oxygen, let it off gas into polluted oxygen and use pufts to generate slime as well, you can also use it in algae terrariums, if you drop germy clean water (so, full of germs but cleaned by the water sieve) then the germs will become airborne and it will output clean polluted. - Sand > 40°C, so the temperature output will egal to the sand temperature. 4×2 tiles Category Geysers Decor +10 (Radius: 2 tiles) Effects Salt Water: Average 3 kg/s @ 95 °C Deconstructible No Salt Water Geyser is a renewable source of Salt Water which can be found in the Tide Pool Biome. -100 Kg. Exosuit Forge can produce Atmo Suit with Cobalt. One of the earliest designs you can find. Someone else pointed out that when boiled you get 93% water and 7% salt, so the lost mass (= lost heat) makes it. When cracked, eggs will output half their mass as Egg Shell and half their mass as Raw Egg . - fill up a liquid reservoir with 5 tons of clean water then dismantle the pump and pipes you needed to do that. Each harvest produces 65 kg Salt. Create a bottle emptier, set the liquid to brine. A Carbon Dioxide room surrounded by Salt, Carbon Dioxide and Sedimentary Rock. ago. When the water is near the evaporation point it will turn to steam briefly, move into the airflow tiles, then some of it condenses back to water. Brine is less useful than salt water, i would also like to change it back. and Waterweed sips salt water so manual bottling would not be burdensome. When I switch to berries I usually do it because why not but it's def not worth for the first few hundred cycles. 500 °C. Dealing with polluted water bottles. Oil Well can be built atop an Oil Reservoir. A common setup includes an aquatuner sitting in polluted water that is fed to a water sieve. ago. It usually appears on Asteroids with a Forest starting zone, with exception of Badlands and Oasisse. #6. A complete material, item, creature handbook and crafting guide for Oxygen Not Included. This is probably one of the easiest, most simple ways to cool geyser water, requiring no energy at all! (except for pumps and stuff): Build a large tank in the ice biome. Salt water can be desalinated (quite expensive energy-wise tho). Use a couple of geotuners and steam turbines so that you get salt, water and power by spending bleach stone which everyone ignores. 7 kg/s, Eruption Periods to cycles are 579s/899s and 300/610s respectively, for a total estimated output of 6. One eruption later, now 888kg water over 6 tiles. The only thing to note is that a desalinator produces less salt and more water than a salt-water boiler, the desalinator converts 7% of the input into salt and 93% into water, while due to a. Duplicants with Mouth Breather trait require double the oxygen, 200 g/s. The Breathability of Oxygen and Polluted Oxygen is dependant on the the Atmospheric Pressure. Bleach Stone is a Consumable Ore that emits Chlorine in its mined state. Dasha Saltvine produces harvestable Salt by consuming Chlorine gas and Sand. (NaCl) Salt, also known as sodium chloride, is an edible chemical compound. More power-efficient than trying to use a Steam Turbine, or using the dedicated building, the Desalinator, while also removing the Dupe labor. If you have an AETN (Antie entropy thermo nullifier) and a cool steam vent or salt water geyser next to it, you just build en electrolyseur right next to the AETN and wire it up, so that a part of the produced H2 goes into it (that thing needs next to no h2) and the other part into a h2 engine, the o2 trough a cooling loop in the chamber with the AETN, till it’s cooled to. Presenting - The Power Farm. Two timer switch can control the whole process if you don't have plastic or patience. Bleach stone can be used as a bait in Airborne Critter Bait to attract Puft Princes and Squeaky Pufts. 016 kg/s of saltwater. They only produce a single egg before expiring, which occurs in only 25. First, build a basin under the geyser to catch the salt water. H. You're trying to keep the heat moving constantly, which means you need to absorb it quickly. The Ethanol is generated by terrain features. 853 kg/s; note I'd set this rate a bit lower for two reasons: Unless. ago. You would have to make a volcano tamer where the water you extract equals the salt. Each Mess Table can store up to 5 g Table Salt. . But the slime remains as slime, allowing you to safely transport it to a distiller. 1. Yes, but the pipe pushes out ~5kg of water per pop and the platform is something like 20 tiles wide. You can use pips to wild plant the lettuce. Leaving aside the mindblowing fact that boilers yield wildly inconsistent amounts of salt (up to 3285g of salt from 5kg of brine, up to 100% saltwater-freshwater conversion), this is an interesting question. Naphta allows more than 30kg on one tile. You'll pressurize real quick. In contrast, Leaky Oil Fissure produces Crude Oil on its own and doesn't need Water or. Below is a table of all geysers, volcanoes and vents in Oxygen Not Included. Then your dupes will automatically bottle water by siphponing from the pump and water the tree. Explore all the Oni element, building, plant, seed, critter, egg. When this biome melts, expect a lot of brine, polluted water, and polluted Oxygen. Empty exactly 2 sections of. Cool the Steam back into Water and it will now be clean. 10% - 90%. Furthermore, the salt water is 95 degrees. 85 °C (melting point + 3 °C), it turns into Molten Glass. Coping everything is not the way to learn the game. Chlorine -ok, fine to try pufts. First, you need a pool of water (in green) to hold all the water that you want cooled. So you heat up 5kg of saltwater to 102. Chlorine Gas Vent. A highly pressurized geyser that periodically erupts with Salt Water. this makes no sense. . A sphere of Obsidian. Water is one of the lowest max mass. Name. It can be harvested on rocket missions to renewable Space POIs: In Frozen Ore Asteroid Fields at a rate of 116. Ekimmak Dec 28, 2022 @ 7:46pm. Melting point-16. Rust is a Consumable Ore, available in the Rust Biome. Geotune the geyser to drive a steam sturbine, use the salt to geotune a chlorine vent, use the chlorine to ranch squeaky pufts, use the bleach stone to geotune the salt water geyser and so on. It's time to upgrade from rust deoxydizers to electrolyzers. Reply reply midwestcreative • Yeah someone else mentioned that about deconstructing and getting a 5t bottle. Regarding germs. Edit 2: Nevermind, looks like liquid CO2 + ~200kg water is creating 100ºC steam. . Learn how to obtain or transform a specific material. Change salt water pipes to radiant pipe to exchange heat with air. 69 °C) yields the same conversion rate except that it will create Steam instead of Water. Regular tiles don't break by high gas pressure. Steam Vent. The filter media from the Sieve will be germy, but dupes can manually disinfect that if you care. 9 kg per cycle. This can be broken down into groups: Water-producing: 6 (PH2O can be cleaned, steam can be cooled) Oxygen-producing: 2 (PO2 can be cleaned) Volcanic: 5 (magma, metal) Metal-producing: 3. 8 kW (+salt, -dupe interaction)Oxygen Not Included. 75 °C Decor -5 (Radius: 1 tile) Piping Input: Salt Water or Brine Intake Output: Water Output Requires Salt Water or Brine: -5 kg/s Effects Water: +4. there is soo many salt with this long run but i not bothered build any automation for that because it needs dupe hands. But apparently salt water cannot be produced at all so this is a dead end. You want the water to exchange heat with the environment, right? So, use granite. Random Geysers (3 randomly generated out of the following) Cool Steam Vent. 9 kW. . Yeah. Tide Pool Biome is a Salt Water biome with exclusive plant and critter types. Fill the loop with polluted water (or the liquid of your choice), until it stops moving to because the pipe is blocked. That requires more than 4 times as much cooling, AND the oxygen comes out at least 70C regardless, so any cooling below that is actually wasted. Using a water sieve creates more pdirt from a given amount of pwater than evaporation creates dirt, which can then be composted into regular. Salt Water. Thanks ill try that. This can supply 300 Lavatory + Sink uses (10kg for the pair) per cycle. There is also a significant overlap in their comfortable temperature ranges. Oxygen Not Included > General Discussions > Topic Details. Intro: 0:00Eruption rates and times: 3:17Discovering geysers/vents/volcanoes: 5:22Cool Steam Vent: 8:52Steam Vent: 19:26Water Geyser: 29:43Salt Water Geyser:. Cobalt is a Refined Metal produced by processing Cobalt Ore with a Rock Crusher, Metal Refinery, or Smooth Hatches. Going to add to this: From the water sieve you can cycle the water back to Pwater by using a carbon skimmer. With AT/ST you need to heat water 30°C (95°C output from geyser -> 125°C minimum for turbine, without tricks). Azrak Jan 1, 2021 @ 11:55am. Food products fall to the. They can be found in the frozen biome and, much like the Cool Slush Geyser, can effectively provide cooling for bases or a small amount of usable water. 4. Bobucles Sep 28 @ 5:48am. There are no liquids in baseline generation. Their contents just start off hot or cool. This devide decrease incoming liquid temperature by 14C and equivalent of that heat removed is spread around the aquatuner. Salt water is a source of Water and Salt. However, out of all Refined Metals it has simultaneously the highest Specific Heat Capacity and lowest Thermal Conductivity. I'm currently doing the same thing, also throwing some extra polluted water to clean that, too. 5 kg/s Salt: +0. 22kg/s Methane and 1. 5 kg/s of O2 @ 95 °C and 1. You could also reduce the amount of salt water being cooled by adding a liquid valve and calculating an amount that would have balanced temperatures (585,060/2,050,000 * 10 kg/s, or 2. Water Based. It is a player-made design, exploiting game's handling of liquids and gasses. Each Salt Water Geyser should be good for. Tiles of Sand will collapse if there are no other solid tiles beneath them and entomb anything that they fall onto. The Rust Deoxidizer can produce Oxygen, Chlorine, Iron Ore with Rust and Salt: 750 g/s Rust + 250 g/s Salt = 570 g/s Oxygen + 30 g/s Chlorine + 400 g/s Iron Ore. If we add this, we need a way to stir water, increase or decrease salt concentration, etc. Fresh Water can be obtained by filtering Polluted Water using a Water Sieve, melting Snow or Ice or cooling Steam. . 500 Kg. If you have a cold biome with a lot of weezeworths there is a little inherent cooling. But the temp sensor is in the oil, not in the vacuum, so the aquatuner can continue running regardless of the chamber having steam or not. I always liked the loop; Rust Deoxidizer produces Chlorine. Members Online. At each temperature we can order the liquids by decreasing density: -259 to -252 [temperature ranges ignore superheating/cooling]: Super coolant, Hydrogen. ago. And if you would build water boiler you would save duplicants work on desalinator and water sieve and carrying polluted dirt for pokeshell, just build one sweeper in steam chamber and ship dirt and salt from there. Developer: Klei Entertainment Publisher: Klei Entertainment Release: Out now On: Windows, Linux, MacOS From: Steam, Epic Store Price: £20/$25/€23 During its two year stint in Early Access, Oxygen Not Included often came close to becoming one of my major time sink games. Just for reference, This salt water geyser has an average output of 5kg/s in its active phase. Assuming you are consuming at a fairly constant rate, the tank doesn't need to be anywhere near that large. So here is two hours of boiling footage compressed down to two minutes so. L37 Sep 20, 2019 @ 2:15am. And a lot of CO2 to vent to space. Lemesplain • 2 yr. There seems no way to create salt water (like mixing salt and water or water and brine). There are 19 unique geysers to pick from for each of the 12 randomly chosen geysers, each having the same chance of selection. Digging in towards the salt water geyser so that we have a supply of water that we can use for our cooling tanks!#OxygenNotIncluded #Duplicant #Simulator #Kl. Community for the space-colony simulation game Oxygen Not Included, developed by Klei. Slightly heating up this Methane again to Natural. However there is no right or wrong. 10% - 90%. ago. If a dupe pees in the right side of the tank, you can move your water pump to the left side and raise it up one tile off the bottom and you can pump clean water until you want to bother fixing the contamination. Ekimmak. Desalinator turns brine into 30% salt, 70% water, and salt water into 7% salt, 93% water. % Active of Eruption Period. It will compare different ways of providing Oxygen to your colony. A lot of the time, you don't need to cool down the water at all. It does not need to be (and should not be) ceramic, that stuff is too expensive, use Granite instead for the decor bonus. 1. Since Leaky Oil Fissures have a weird output temperature, that’s too hot to directly use but too cold to turn to Petroleum easily, this build cools it down to about 95°C to 100°C with a SCST and its exhaust (just like the Hydrogen Vent tamer), which matches Oil Wells. My solution is a full head cover that creates a liquid lock when paired with the right automation. 217. Polluted Water is the most common naturally occurring liquid on most asteroids, especially in the Swamp Biome. i to have salt water geyser what runs inside steam, but it is self the 95C. Make sure to not sweep any of the ice that fell to the bottom while digging out for the tank. Only "The Badlands" does not have the Tide Pool biomes and thus no Salt Water Geyser and no Waterweed. The isn't that you mixed liquids, the sin is that you didn't filter the input to match what is required of certain buildings. In low temperature area of Tide Pool, Salt Water will turn into Brine. redditfortc • 4 yr. If you are playing the DLC, keep in mind that resource distribution is. How to obtain Salt and how to use Salt. However if you want to use a cold biome then just start with short radiant pipe segments and create small loops with a shut off connected to a inpipe temp sensor. 5 kg/s Auto In Green: Enable Red: Disable Materials Metal Ore 200 kg Desalinator is a building that filters Salt Water or Brine to make water and salt . Water and cold slush can be re[;aced by anything else. Oxygen Not Included Wiki is. If power not a problem then your chokepoint are pipes only can handle 10/s. Add little Salt Shakers to your Dupe's Mess Tables! Table SaltThe "Basics" Series is a group of tutorial videos for beginner concepts in Oxygen Not Included. There are no Metal Ores generated in this biome. Desalinating gives you 7% salt and 97% water, but boiling it gives you 25. 3) Liquids should not "want" a square as they do. Max Pressure. Btw if you need to save on power a Liquid Shutoff with a Liquid Pipe Element Sensor directly before it with also work as a filter. Designate a clean water source and a polluted water destination. 10 waterweeds need like 5 kg chlorine a cycle thats enough for most players and even if you have none on your map is sustainable by rocketry. Each usage consumes 1 g Table Salt and grants +1 Morale bonus to Duplicants. Hydrogen Gas is one of the Resources in the game Oxygen Not Included. To avoid it you either have to use another liquid or ensure that input water is cold enough to absorb the heat without boiling. in my opinion its ok to have late game perfect food that is partly ever. A square of 17 will hold all the salt water from one eruption period. 2. A 'visit' to the toilet produces 5 kg of water, so every 64 visits nets me 1 reed fiber. That would be a nice niche for a mid-game cooling building. From heaviest to lightest type of water: Brine, Salt Water, Polluted Water, Water. Atmospheric Pressure is based on the amount, mass, and type of gas filling a space at a time. It's beautiful, but far too complicated to really make salt as prevalent as it is in the game. What to do with salt and saltwater? : r/Oxygennotincluded Patapon80 What to do with salt and saltwater? Just playing the vanilla game although I have the expansion but it's not. Emission Rate. ) Then, passing the brine through the desalinator gives us water + salt. Food poisoning germs can’t live in water or oxygen and will die off slowly. Lime is made with a rock crusher. Of course, create a pit to hold the brine that's emptied by the bottler first. Due to the low temperature of the output, the. The farm is cooled down by 29% uptime aquatuner, running polluted water. The Desalinator can seperate Salt Water into Water (93% mass) and Salt (7% mass). It looks like you've a salt/rust biome to your lower left. It is useful in Power production. Join. This Guide is intended to keep your Duplicants from suffocating. . Geotuners. Metal tiles cooled by the first aquatuner condense the steam into the holding tank. A complete material, item, creature handbook and crafting guide for Oxygen Not Included. r/Oxygennotincluded. Each usage consumes 1 g Table Salt and grants +1 Morale bonus to Duplicants. #2. The Liquid Airlock fully stops gas flow between two rooms. Total Eruption Period. The only part that isn't self-powered (once it gets going) is the pump next to the geyser. #5. One uncovered Salt Water Geyser is guaranteed to spawn in a Tide Pool Biome and more covered ones may be found in such a biome as well. Suffocating. I actually just nearly finished the build. 65 or 3. Water in output must not boil. . SnackJunkie93 • 2 hr. So it doesn't remove heat, it just moves it from liquid to enviroment surrounding. 609. So if the aquatuner is running and no water is being added to the loop, but the cold sensor can eject water, you could drain the entire loop. That's point at which it over-pressurizes, and no longer yields any more Hydrogen. You need 6 capped wells to match a single average cool steam vent, but also gain tons of power as a side effect. Ice biome will melt after some time and heat up to the temperature of water you send there in pipes. Natural Gas is a mixture of various alkanes in a Gaseous state. The extra water isn't sufficient to provide their oxygen needs. It's very simple. Use chlorine from a chlorine vent to feed dasha saltvines and crush salt endlessly (it's a sand-positive process). Per page: 15 30 50. The Desalinator separates Salt Water into Water (93%) and Salt (7%). Simply loop the liquid with an aquatuner submerged in polluted water, the pwater will heat up but it's easy to delete heat with a sieve. Connect the pump to your bathroom's input side. And it is not 95°. The large quantities of generated Hydrogen can then be used to power an entire colony, not just the Hydra itself. I'd recommend making a rust deoxydizer then digging for salt deposits (you'll have plenty of rust). Pump them into your base into liquid containers and break them down to produced bottles versions that give off polluted oxygen and repeat. This should result in oxygen leaving the system near to the temperature of the water coming in, giving some heat deletion even without an AETN or such (as a real funny sidenote, SHC is reduced so much by the electrolyzer that, to have the gases out have the same heat as the water in, the water in would need to be just under 4 C colder than the. Firstly, you pipe the salt water into the steam room. Shaggy Jul 14, 2022 @ 5:40pm. After that 18 cycles the supply is stopped for 4 cycles and after it pass crops are automatically dropped and picked up by autosweepers. You could do a 3rd if you add in other things like the algea maker, toilet, showers ect. There are better ways to use super-cold salt water, but this is better than just mixing. 7kg for the pair) per cycle. H. Open the door, let water flow in for a while, then cut it. Find relations between elements, information and attributes. It is also found in the Frozen Biome, Oil Biome and Barren Biome. Enudoran • 2 yr. As an alternative I would appreciate suggestions if there is a more efficient way to get it done. You can then send the hot water to an electrolyzer and that will end up deleting a lot of the heat (hot oxygen is much easier to cool than hot water). This can supply and process 100 Shower uses per cycle (their peak use nature may necessitate buffers). 69 °C (vaporization point + 3 °C) will yield the same conversion rate. 3 steam + salt, heat it to 125, get energy. . Moments that will forever change how you play the game. Water Geyser. Sieves have the same behaviour with salt water and brine. Last edited by Hedning ; Dec 3, 2019 @ 1:16am.